episode 61 how to use clubhouse for nonclinical doctors - the career rx podcast

Should doctors be on Clubhouse? What are the advantages of Clubhouse for physicians and can you use Clubhouse for professional purposes? Not sure how to find the people and events that interest you on Clubhouse, or what to do once you’ve found them?

If you’re interested in using Clubhouse professionally but not sure how to get started, this episode is for you.

In This Episode of The Career Rx We’ll Discuss:

  • Step by step instruction on getting an invite and searching for people or clubs
  • The basic etiquette of communicating within the app
  • Clubhouse pros and cons (and some workaround tips)

Today’s we cover how to use Clubhouse specifically for non clinical doctors, how to find your colleagues who are in leadership or healthcare industry or other non clinical roles, and how to find relevant topics and clubs within the Clubhouse social media platform.

By the end of this episode, you’ll have a clear understanding of how to get started on Clubhouse, how to find and join a room within a club, and how to connect with people you ‘meet’ on Clubhouse.

“My most important advice is don’t worry – there’s no ‘wrong way’, and it’s fun!” – Marjorie Stiegler

In this Episode:

[0:45] This is recorded from a Facebook Live
[3:10] Clubhouse isn’t very intuitive (yet – it’s still in beta!)
[4:30] How to get started and the right way to get an invitation
[6:30] ‘Swipe right’ – what it means on Clubhouse
[7:40] Find me on Clubhouse! (Non Clinical Doctors)
[8:15] Searching by keywords, names, and even emojis
[9:20] How to get notified about events
[11:40] Explaining clubs vs rooms
[12:20] Click the green dot
[13:25] But there’s no chat! (Do this instead)
[14:05] What to do once you’re in
[16:00] How to join and talk in a room (going on ‘stage’)
[17:15] It’s okay to just listen
[18:50] Don’t worry about it – it’s fun!
[20:45] Clubhouse stays on in the background
[21:50] Twitter’s rolling out this new feature
[22:50] Advantages of the Clubhouse venue
[25:00] Unfiltered conversations – pro or con?
[26:40] Making a more direct connection

Links and Resources:

The Branding Rx 18 hours of CME, mastering digital strategies for advancing your career, building your business, and growing your professional brand

Clubhouse: Non Clinical Doctors Club

Physician NonClinical Career Hunters – Facebook Group

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TRANSCRIPT: Episode 61 – How to Use Clubhouse for NonClinical Doctors

Hey there, I’m Marjorie Stiegler and you’re listening to The Career Rx Podcast, where we tackle the important things they don’t teach you in medical school. Like how to treat your career, like the business it really is, with strategies to accelerate the kind of success that you want, because you deserve a career you love, and a career that loves you back. Are you ready? Let’s get into it.

Hey, there. So this morning, I’m answering questions for this episode about how to use Clubhouse specifically for non clinical doctors, how to find your colleagues who are in leadership or healthcare industry or other non clinical roles, and how to find relevant topics and clubs within the Clubhouse social media platform. There’s so much interest in this specific topic, particularly in the Facebook group, called Physician Non Clinical Career Hunters. This is not my group. This is my friend Laura McKain’s group. It has more than 16,000 members of physicians all very interested in all varieties of non clinical careers, including administration, healthcare, leadership, industry, and many, many more. So I’m actually going live in that group right now, to share my tips for not only how to find the most relevant content in Clubhouse, but also just the very, very basic etiquette that you might need to know in order to confidently feel like you can join a room in Clubhouse and participate, understanding kind of how that flow goes. And you know, how you really don’t need to be nervous or worry about it at all. It’s just as easy as a phone call with friends. And I’ve answered in the Facebook group, while I was going live, I’ve answered a handful of questions that came through the chat. So that will be I think, even more value added a little bit about, you know, sort of what are the advantages of a platform like Clubhouse specifically for physicians and for professional purposes. So I get into that a little bit as well. I hope that you will enjoy it, as I’m making it available here on the career prescription podcast. But again, keep in mind that the audio is from a Facebook Live video. So if I’m making references to that, or I am directly addressing someone who’s left a comment while I was live. That’s what’s going on. I hope you enjoy it.

Here we go. Hey, gang. So I wanted to come on today in a quick live video to help people to understand how to join on Clubhouse because last week, I had the absolute pleasure of joining very familiar names and faces that you know, here, john, and Michelle and Laura, on Clubhouse, where we hosted an hour long event busting myths about non clinical career options. It was it was great, it probably could have gone for another hour, if not more. And so so many of you had reached out to me and to the rest of them to try to get invitations to try to get on Clubhouse to understand how to use Clubhouse. And one of the big take home lessons for me was that it’s not very intuitive to a lot of people who wanted to come and join. So this is just a couple of quick minutes because we will do it. Again, this is a few minutes on how to find what you’re looking for within the Clubhouse platform. I mean, first and foremost, you need to join. So that would mean you need to download the app, which you can do either on your iPhone or any iOS device. So that includes an iPad.

So if you are an Android phone user, you can still use Clubhouse, you use it on your iPad, and you’ll have to connect your Android phone number to your account, but you can still use it from your iPad. So first of all, you know you got to get on, so you get on the app. And then of course, you need an invitation because it’s still in beta and the way that they are adding members is from existing members giving invitations to prospective members. So you just reach out to people that you know and ask if people have invitations, people will often have a handful they send them to you, you need to be in their contacts list in their phone in order to get that invitation. And so ideally, ask someone that you already know that is a friend that you might actually be in their contact list or at least be ready to share your phone number. And also don’t do that with more than one person at a time. Because when a person who… when a person gives you their invitation, they can never get it back. So if you’ve asked like the whole wide world for an invitation, and you get seven of them, that means that six out of those seven are going to waste you won’t use them and the people who gave them to you can’t get them back to give them to someone else. So it’s tempting, but please only just use the invitation from one person.

Anyway, once you’ve done those things, and you’re in and you’re in Clubhouse, one of the things that’s still a little bit I think wonky in there is finding what you’re looking for finding stuff that would be useful to you that you want to join Finding the people that you want to be with, because it’s an algorithm like any other social platform, and it’s relatively new. So you can do some basic selecting of, you know, concepts that are of interest to you. But for a long time, the stuff that you see on your home screen is going to perhaps feel irrelevant, and like not not anything that you’re there for. And so how to cut through that noise. And in particular, for this video, how to find other non clinical doctors on Clubhouse and the non clinical doctors events on Clubhouse. So let me tell you how to do that. So there’s a handful of ways if you’re looking at the screen, and is against Clubhouses Terms of Service to record without permission, so I can’t do a video and posted here, but I’m going to talk you through it. So I’ve opened up my Clubhouse app.

And if you were open yours, you would see the same kind of layout, you will see a couple of things, the first thing that you see is called the hallway. And it’s these little white boxes that have the name of a club that has a little greenhouse next to it, a title, which is the name of whatever the session is, and then a couple of avatars pictures and people who are speaking and they I think try to do that both with moderators and people that you might know. And you can scroll through that sort of infinitely, to find more and more things. And as you might imagine, at any given time, I mean, there are hundreds, if not 1000s of things going on concurrently. So you know, you want to scroll through it. And if it’s not of interest to you at all, swipe right and up will come a little hide, you know, hide that room. So if it’s the kind of thing that you’re like, I don’t want to see any more of this sort of thing. You can train Clubhouse over time, it’s not immediate, that you don’t like that by swiping right and getting rid of those kinds of things. So then in order to find people that you want to find, one thing you can do is go to the top left, which is a just like a little magnifying glass, it’s a search icon. When you click on that you open up an explorer screen, at the bottom of explore are some topics, but they’re still pretty general and broad. So you might go through there and say, you know you’re interested in you know, knowledge about science, you’re interested in world affairs, I mean, you can click More generally, but at the top really, I think is the most interesting place because it suggests people for you to follow based, I think on your contacts and people you’re already following. So you can just kind of click through and follow people that you know, in that regard, the other thing you can do is use the search bar to find people in clubs. So when you click on that search bar up will immediately pop a little toggle option between people and clubs. So you can put in a person’s name that you’re looking for, and you can likely find them and then follow them. So you could do that, for example with people that you know here in this Facebook group. And you could just look for them and follow them. The other thing you can do is you can toggle on to clubs. And when you do that, if you want to find the nonclinical doctors club, you just start to type non clinical doctors up it pops and you can follow that club. And you can become a member of the club a follower or a member in order to become a member, you have to also follow me because I’m the admin of the club. So just search for me, Marjorie Stiegler, go ahead and click follow. Sometimes there are members only events. So you may want to do that, or you may not and obviously entirely up to you. And so you can in the search bar up here, find both people and clubs. And you can search by people’s names. And you can also search by keywords. And actually Fun fact, you can even search by emojis, I don’t know how helpful that is. But you can search by emojis.

So for example, if you put the stethoscope emoji in there, you would likely find a bunch of healthcare related things. Now, whether they’re directly related to your interests, particularly your non clinical interest, I don’t know. But so you can do that. That’s so that’s one way to find now once you have found the club, or the people that you’re interested in, it’s my recommendation that you join the club, because then if you do when you go back to your hallway, which is the name of that homescreen. Instead of just seeing a bunch of the white boxes with the club names and the activities, what you’ll start to see also is sort of a shade and beige box at the top that has the upcoming events that are specifically hosted by the club you’ve selected. So if you were to follow non clinical doctors on Clubhouse, then if ever we have any events going on, you know, you just see it right there, it would show up right at the top of your screen. So whether you knew about it or not there, it would be for you. When you find those events, you can click on them and you can add them to your calendar, or you can select to get notifications about them. So those two things I think are very handy. Because you’ll see at the top of your screen as well that you have a calendar icon and you have a little notifications icon which just looks like a little bell. If you tap on the calendar icon, you’ll see two things. It’s like a drop down, there’s a little carrot, you might not realize it’s a drop down when you first look at it.

The first by default it says upcoming for you and there’s a suggested bunch of things going on it close to the time that it is that you’re logging in. And this again is based on the algorithm so it’s probably based a little bit on your express interest of topics, it’s expressed, the people that you’re following, and other things that you have joined. That’s how it’s going to populate upcoming for you. And if you want to get a notification when a particular one goes live, because you’re interested in joining it, there is a little bell icon next to each of those that you’re seeing. So you can just push that, and it will be sure to let you know. And you’ll get a little push notification when that starts. So you can scroll through all the things that are posted there that they think you may be interested in. And you can, you know, click on them to get more details, and you can push the little bell icon in order to get a reminder about it. The other thing in the drop down list, if you click on the text that says upcoming for you, there is another option to select. And that option is my events. So my events are events that you are either hosting or that you are a co like a guest or co moderator on. And once where you have clicked the little reminder button, right. So this way, it makes sure that if you are interested in something, you really one click away from adding it to your calendar. And if it’s added to your calendar, then it’s easy to find that way. So I think those are the best ways to find things that are of interest is to use that search bar, keywords and clubs, follow the clubs that are of specific interest to you, because the clubs will have their own rooms. So a club is, you know, something that exists over time that has consistent members, but has different rooms at different times different topics and things like that. Otherwise, it’s possible to just have an ad hoc room anytime you want.

But that is harder for people to know about and to keep track of. So that’s why we created a club. And if you want to just know what’s going on in that club, or if you even want to host a room in the club, it’s useful to join it. So joining that club or other clubs is one way to be sure that you find the topics that are of interest to you, following the people that you know by searching names of, you know, your colleagues that have relevant similar interests, and following them is another way. And then when you’re in your, when you’re in your hallway, again, the homescreen at the bottom right hand corner, there is a little series of nine dots, almost like a telephone keypad and a little green.on it and when you click that, it opens up and shows you who is available online to chat. And so you can see whom of your colleagues and people that you’re following are actually online right now at that time that you look. And more over you can see if they’re in a different room. And if they’re in a room, there’s an option just by clicking on them to join the room that they are in. So that’s also how you can find things that are of interest, because presumably, there’s at least some overlap of interest. You know, your colleagues that you you know, share like minded, you know, you have the same perspectives, you have the same interest. If they are in a room somewhere, then they’re likely to be listening to something that you’re listening to. Hi, Laura. Good morning. I see Laura is popping in and saying hi in the chat here. And actually, since you’re there, Laura, I’ll just say it also tells me right here in the Clubhouse app that Laura mccain is online and available to chat. And so if I wanted to, I could push this button right now and open up a room for the two of us to just start talking. And then other people could come and join it if we made it an open public room.

I’m not going to do that right now. Because I don’t have time. But just so you know, that’s that’s how this will work. So when you do open it up, I mean, certainly any room that Laura is listening to, I’d probably be interested in. So I’d be happy to see her name pop up, and to see what she’s doing so that I could join it as well. So those are a couple of the easy ways to find the events and the people that you are interested in in joining on Clubhouse. Now I’m going to take five minutes to to give just a very, very quick tutorial. Oh, yeah, sure. Okay, go ahead, Laura. I might take some questions. Why not? What are some of the advantages of the Clubhouse venue? Yes. Okay, so let me answer that in a second. But let me also do what I know this team, this group really needed which was, okay, fine. Once I’m in Clubhouse, how do I do it? So once you’re in and you found an event that you want to attend, for example, of Laura, and I get on later this week, and we do another sort of live q&a type of session, and you want to join it. And so you followed non clinical doctors or your follow Laura, You followed me and you, you find it, you’ve added it to your calendar, and then we start and then you enter the room. So if you’ve made it that far, there you are. Once you have joined the room, it’s important to know that you’re on on mute, right? There’s really no you can be anywhere doing anything, join a room, nobody can hear you. Nobody can see you, because it’s audio only. And it’s live only. And so you can click it while you’re commuting while you’re cooking while you’re exercising. I mean you’d be doing anything, and nobody can hear you. Nobody can see you. Now if you want to participate in the conversation, then what you’ll do is raise your hand so when you’re in the room, you look down at the bottom of your screen and there’s a little icon as like a hand up I think like a piece of paper or something like that, but basically, you’re raising your hand, when you raise your hand, the person or persons who are moderating will get a little notification at the top of their screen that you would like to come up and join what’s called the stage, this is where you can actually speak actively. So put your hand up, and a moderator will either bringing up or not, it depends on their format and whether or not they want to have additional people or if they’re intending to sort of limit the number of speakers and they’re just sort of broadcasting like you might on a podcast. Or if they’re expecting it to be more of like a talk show, right? where everybody can kind of come on. If you raise your hand, and they bring you up to the stage, it’s best practice for you to mute yourself immediately. So please be paying attention at that time, because you’ll come on off mute, and we’ve all had enough zoom calls to know, that’s really annoying, right, you can get a lot of background noise. And you can get a lot of unintentional disruption to the program that’s going on or the room that’s going on, unless you mute yourself right away. And then you want to get a sense for what is the intended format, the moderators should be helping make this clear, which is, you know, are they going to be calling on you? If so, people will usually do that in the order in which they came up on stage. So generally speaking, unless you’re a moderator, you usually should not unmute yourself and just like chime right in, you should wait for them to either call on you specifically, or to say, you know, does anyone want to add anything or whatever. So you’ll know when it’s appropriate for you to be speaking. Obviously, if you’re the host, or the moderator, you can speak whenever you want.

Sometimes the hosts will see that you’ve joined the room, and they’ll take the initiative to invite you on the stage. And in that case, up will pop a little thing on your screen that says you know, Marjorie Stiegler has invited you on stage, you can click accept to that, and still mute yourself. And again, nobody can see you because not visible and as long as you’re on mute, nobody can hear you. And you could, you know, choose whether you want to say something or not, even if what you want to say is, I’d love to talk right now. But I’m in the carpool line, you know, thanks for inviting me up. I mean, you could just do that go back on mute. But in you don’t have to accept that invitation. If you decline it, the host gets a polite little note that says, you know, Laura can cannot talk right now, you know, maybe later. So it’s all fine, you don’t have to come up and you don’t have to raise your hand, you can just listen, if you want to participate, raise your hand. Once you’re on this stage, you should be muted. And then when the moderator gets around to either opening it all up, or asking you specifically then you unmute yourself to speak, usually mute yourself, right after that. You’ll hear in a lot of rooms, this sort of what I think is a little bit bizarre etiquette that when people are done, they will say something along the lines of like, I’m Marjorie Stiegler, I’m done speaking. And so then everybody is doing that. And I just find that to be artificial, I think we probably can, you know, do a pretty good job of taking turns and having a conversation just like you would on a good old fashioned phone call. I don’t need, I don’t feel like I need your over declaration that you’re done speaking. But you’ll see that or you’ll hear it, I guess, a lot on Clubhouse that seems to be a norm. I don’t do that in my rooms, I don’t tend to do that. Unless things get really out of hand. The other thing that sometimes moderators will do is they’ll bring people up on stage in a batch. So they’ll just announce you every 10 or 15 minutes, they’ll sort of re-announce the topic. And then they’ll say if you want to come on up, like now’s the time to raise your hand. Otherwise, they would be distracted by constantly, you know, bringing people up and muting people and stuff. So sometimes it will be in a batch, there’s probably still nothing that prevents you from raising your hand, if you want to try to do that. A moderator does have a setting to turn off hand raising. But again, no harm. I mean, if you push the button, and it’s not working, that’s why it’s because they’ve turned off hand raising, if you push the button, and they don’t call you up, that’s just not their format. But again, like there’s no harm done there. Right. It’s not actually interrupting anything, so don’t worry about it. I think that’s my, my most important advice is don’t worry about it. It’s fun. Come on in, you know, it’s a conversation.

You can’t, it’s hard to get it wrong, really, you’re talking to people. But if you do want to be part of the conversation, raise your hand or accept it, when someone brings you up on stage, mute yourself and then wait for them to get around to you in whatever way you want. The other thing to know is that if you tap on anybody, including the moderators, profiles, and you scroll down, most people have connected their account either to their Instagram or their Twitter or both. And that’s a way that you can message someone because Clubhouse doesn’t have a native messaging at all. So, you know, if Laura and I are on there having a conversation, and john joins us and he wants to come up and co moderate. He could send me a message or you know, text message if we have each other’s phone numbers and say, you know, hey, I’d love to come up and moderate, you know, I want to talk about x, y or z. So if you do want to send a written message to somebody, or if you’re having trouble, you know, you can do that and you can do it even with strangers if you’re willing to message them through Instagram. Not everybody has this turned on all the time. Like when I’m moderating a Clubhouse room I’m usually not super multitasking like checking my Instagram messengers, but a lot of people actually do that maybe I’m just old, I can’t, I can’t do all that. But a lot of people do that. So that would be a way that you could reach out to somebody to let them know like, Hey, I have something to say other than just raising your hand. I think that those are like the basics. The other thing to know is when you’re ready to leave, the only way to leave is to hit this little, it’s like a peace sign at the bottom. And it says leave quietly, which I find a little bit funny, because there’s no other way to leave, there’s no loud way to leave, you just tap that button and you leave the room. And it’s not like there’s a big notification like, oh, Laura has left the room, you’re just you leave the room.

And you could pop right back in two seconds later, if you wanted to. A nice thing about Clubhouse is it keeps going unless you leave the room even if you leave the app so you can switch around. So you could go to somebody’s Twitter or Instagram and message them or, you know, go to your email or do any kind of other things. And the Clubhouse will continue to play. So it doesn’t interrupt it the same way that like YouTube does, you know, if you leave the YouTube screen, it shuts off at least the playing and the audio. So those are the basics of how it works. I hope that has made people feel confident that you can join and not have to worry about it. There’s nothing you really need to know, to come and join and to have fun.

Yes, the lack of messaging is a challenge. Absolutely, Laura, it is, you know, Twitter has launched this new thing called spaces. I don’t know how many of you are familiar with that. But it’s very similar to Clubhouse. It’s in beta, so only a few people have it. But if you’ve started to notice at the top of your Twitter feed in the same place where the fleets are, which are kind of like the stories, these sort of purple groups. It’s that’s what a space is, is it’s basically a live conversation again, audio only, but they have emojis which I like. So even if you’re not on the stage, and you don’t have speaking permissions, you know, there’s a way to click like a 100% right to indicate agreement, or there’s a way to click laughter You know, there’s a handful of emojis. So there are ways to sort of communicate, and you can embed tweets. So there’s much more of a way to have a, you know, an augmenting your verbal conversation on spaces. So I don’t know if Clubhouse will be bringing any of that as they evolve. I think it would be nice, but that’s a good workaround. You could definitely text people. Because I agree sometimes it’s super awkward. Where you feel like you there’s something that needs to be said like, I’ve got to go now or I don’t know, you want to say something right, and you can’t. So there’s that. Okay, so I don’t know, actually a handful people are on. So for the people who are watching this live. I mean, I guess I’m not doing anything that important right now I can keep answering questions in this group. And Laura has asked, what are some of the advantages of the Clubhouse venue? So this is a good question, I would say that one of the things that I really like about it is that it is audio only.

So you don’t have to be you don’t have to be camera ready. And you can literally be doing anything. Because there’s nothing visual. So not only do you need not need to be acceptable to be looking, you know, for people to look at you. But also nobody else is presenting anything you need to look at. So in that regard, it’s similar to podcast, right where you could put it on during your commute or your exercise or something like that. And there’s just, you know, you can know that whatever you’re listening to, the value stands on its own from an audio perspective and audio without messages and icons. Right. That’s it.

So that really forces people, I think to be clear in their communications, because there’s no slides or visuals or anything like that to look at. And again, it’s nice for you because you could just like roll out of bed and, or be doing other things and join and participate without having the visual be an issue. The other thing that I think is interesting, so I’m not sure if it’s necessarily an advantage. But that’s interesting to me about that platform is that it’s live only. So as I’ve mentioned, it’s against the terms of service to record it. In less I mean, there are way like sometimes I’ll broadcast the podcast episode in there, and then I will record it. But I have a you have to put like disclaimers in there. And then you also have to tell everybody, so if I bring someone up for a q&a, I have to let them know that I’m recording it. But I’m recording just the audio part. You’re not supposed to record it. And you can’t record someone else’s club that will get you absolutely kicked out. So you can record your own broadcasts as long as you tell everybody who’s joining the room, but you cannot record somebody else’s. And if you do that, like that is a violation of their terms of service. And so you can get you can lose your privileges. So I think it’s interesting to have live only because, you know, on the one hand, it’s not durable, so you can’t make it on demand. And so I think in that regard, it can be helpful because people are very spontaneous, totally unscripted, very spontaneous. Sometimes people say things they might not otherwise say in something that’s going to be recorded. And so whether that’s a pro because it lets people be just really authentic, or is it a con because you can’t preserve it, I don’t know. But it is interesting. And it’s so it’s something to know. I think like with any social media platform, The other advantage of it is, there’s a whole lot more people for you to come in contact with that you may not already know. Because so many of the existing platforms, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, have very, very deeply ingrained algorithms. And so you know, you’re kind of living in like a little bubble. I think we all know this by now, right? When you’re on Facebook, the things that you see on Facebook or on Twitter on Instagram, is very well developed over an algorithm that’s been around for a very long time that you’ve probably participated in for a pretty long time. So you see, just like a tiny slice of life on Clubhouse, because it’s totally new and native. I mean, part of it’s a disadvantage, because there’s a lot of what I would consider to be noise on there, it’s the stuff pops up that I’m like, I’m not at all interested in that and get rid of that for me.

But it’s, it’s has been a great way for me to meet new people and different people. And the other thing that I really like about it, again, is that we can kind of just have a conversation. So like, while Laura is watching this and sending me texts, which I appreciate or not me text commenting in here, the thing appreciate you doing this live in the group, thank you, I’m happy to do it live here. If this were Clubhouse, Laura could just get on and have a conversation verbally. And anyone who’s watching or listening could similarly just listen to us having a conversation. So it gives a little bit more of that direct connection, as opposed to, you know, seeing that, like I can see that number of eyeballs that are watching this live and I can see your comments. But like we can’t have a conversation really, there’s a way as you know, to set up a live for more than one person can be on it. But you know, it’s just it’s not quite the same. So I really like it sort of like a Collin talk show. So slightly different in that regard. And, and I’ve met a lot of new new and interesting people on it. So that’s fine. Anyway, as you have heard me say I really only was going to come on and tell you guys how to find people. But now I’ve told you how to find the people that you’re looking for and the groups that you’re looking for the events you’re looking for. And I’ve told you the basics of the etiquette. So what to expect when you join a room, why you do not need to worry about it, no stress, you know, no one can see you, no one can hear you.

Unless you choose to add yourself to the conversation. And even then, right, it kind of depends upon the moderators format. And then finally, sort of what are some pros and cons about it, I think, very interesting to meet new people very interesting to be exposed to a brand new sort of uninformed algorithm that is just learning us all. Something very cool to me about getting to hear people’s voices and talk to them as if on a phone call. Especially people that I feel like I’ve known for a while through comments and written posts. It’s just fun to get to talk to people in an interactive way. That’s not a podcast, not a video. And that’s truly like bi directional or multi directional.

I think that’s really fun to follow a lot of people in this group. In fact, why don’t why not leave comments to this video of you know, if you’re on Clubhouse what your name is, so we can all come find each other. Follow non clinical doctors as a club if you would like to and that way you’ll be sure to get the notifications whenever we do a live club hosted discussion, which is a lot of fun. And I look forward to seeing everybody in this group as always and also on Clubhouse.

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